Posted: General    2 May 2008    11:37 am CT
Mini-Camp Open Thread 
By Rafael Vela  80 Comments

Assign some official numbers to the Cowboys


80 Comments to ‘Mini-Camp Open Thread’: »

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11:39 am CT 2 May 2008

burmafrd:

Glad to see a new entry. Wondered if you guys were sleeping.

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11:41 am CT 2 May 2008

falconPUNCH:

burm,

c’mon now, we all know they don’t sleep :P

03
11:58 am CT 2 May 2008

Trey:

I am not sure I like Jenkins donning #31. I would hate to be reminded of his coverage angles while watching him.

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12:35 pm CT 2 May 2008

diveandcatch:

I read on the dc website that jones had only 28 or 29 available. What about 21 hello!!!!!!!!!!! Jones replaces jones. oh well maybe pac will take 21 so i can still wear my 21 jones jersey

05
12:40 pm CT 2 May 2008

cowboykevy:

The good thing about Jenkins wearing 31 is that he can only improve it…

Sad but True…

Feed RW one more biscuit and move him to LB! :-)

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12:42 pm CT 2 May 2008

cowboykevy:

diveandcatch…

Have you noticed that “It ain’t easy keeping up ‘with all’ the Jones” ;-)

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12:44 pm CT 2 May 2008

cowboykevy:

Raf,

Are there any rumblings out of VR? I know it the first day of mini-camp but have you heard anything yet?

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12:44 pm CT 2 May 2008

Playmaker:

Pacman did take #21, to honor “his friend”, Deion Sanders.

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1:06 pm CT 2 May 2008

casual1031:

playmaker

where do you see pacman took 21 at????

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1:16 pm CT 2 May 2008

Playmaker:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3320440

This is from a month ago, but I also read after the trade that he was definitely taking #21. I can’t find confirmation right now, but I’m positive I read that.

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1:18 pm CT 2 May 2008

Brushpile:

I just looked at the depth chart at the Cowboys official site. They have Ratliff listed at the DE position.

At NT they have Tank, Remi Ayodele and Savii.

I think this is just clerical though. He is probably “on-the-books” as a DE.

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1:36 pm CT 2 May 2008

Fighter15:

You know, with all the gnashing of teeth about the failure of picking Bryant or Okam at NT, I forgot about Siavii. HUGE body (6′5″, 330, but actually quite a bit bigger).

Drafted by KC, but out of football for a couple of years. Has real potential.

Remi is also built for the position and is entering the magic third year.

So it’s not as if the cupboards bare of big bodies. Now, can they play?

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1:37 pm CT 2 May 2008

AustonianAggie7:

I don’t know Brushpile, Mickey and other writers on that site look over and probably manage the data shown on the web site. That may be accurate

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1:43 pm CT 2 May 2008

Brushpile:

AustinAggie7

Are you saying that you think that Rat is being phased out as an NT?

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1:46 pm CT 2 May 2008

Brushpile:

Fighter,

You are right, we do have some big guys there, but I’m not sure either how well they can play.

I just found it odd that ratliff didn’t show up there at NT on the depth roster.

How was he listed last year? I don’t think I ever looked.

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1:51 pm CT 2 May 2008

KDP_KINGPIN:

Has anybody heard anything about Mike Jefferson? The Lunch Break crew seems to think that he has alot of potential. Heard that he was blowing past T New and Henry at the end of last year during practice.

Now of course, we’re talking about practice. But last year all the talk was about the depth of wide receivers on the roster. Maybe they were just a year away.

Miles Austin can catch, he just hasn’t. Sam Hurd can make spectacular catches, and has been learning from TO the game of seperation. Stanback… lots of potential.

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2:10 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

kingpin,

i have heard very little about jefferson other than he may be the fastest wr other than TO. thats alot to say for a guy who is not small at all at 6′1″, 210.

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2:13 pm CT 2 May 2008

AustonianAggie7:

No, that it’s possible Rat is being phased in to DE, to provide the pass rush Spears doesn’t, while Tank will provide a pass rush from NT maybe

19
2:14 pm CT 2 May 2008

AustonianAggie7:

The DMN blog guys seem to like the rookies, especially Bennett & Felix & Amendola, Jenkins seems to need some work

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2:15 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

Ratliff has always been listed at DE, but at times has played NT. he just doesnt have the build for a NT at 6′4″ and 295. too tall. ayodele is really the best sized guy we have for NT. seems like ratliff played some NT on passing downs - maybe hes faster? if a def coach could have the ideal NT in a 3-4 the guy would be like 6′0″, 330. ummm, casey hampton. best NT in the nfl.

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2:16 pm CT 2 May 2008

jevans1729:

While reading all of the criticism of Roy the “Thong” Williams, a thought occurred to me. When Sean Taylor died last year “The Thong” was picked to replace him to go to the Pro-Bowl. Since the majority here believe that Roy is such a poor SS and wish to trade him in many cases, what does that say for the other starting SS in the NFC East? That’s 15 other players. Do they all suck more than Roy? Or is it our perspective as fans, who have a team that went 13-3, that we are perfectionists and see him as a weak link because everything else was pretty good? I’m not defending the guy, I’m just saying……..

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2:17 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

ausaggie,

seems spears has never really become more than just an ok starter - rarely do you hear his name called during a game. didnt we pick him like middle of the 1st round after ware. guess hes a run stopper, but even there not so much.?

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2:18 pm CT 2 May 2008

Gray:

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/

five observations from mini-camp

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2:20 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

jevan,

roy makes the pro bowl due to name recognition and highlight hits, not because he really deserved it last year. he is easily our biggest weakness on defense. we all love roy, but bro cant even cover 260 lb tightends. his change of direction speed is like frozen mollasses.

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2:20 pm CT 2 May 2008

AustonianAggie7:

Ratliff was the starting NT all last year after Jason Ferguson went down. In 2005 or 6 he may have been a DE, but last year he was a full-time NT.

Roy Williams is the most famous SS in the NFC. Its not like Safeties accrue a lot of attention. Thats why he was put in the Pro-bowl. Realistically, I think Minnesota had a better SS.

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2:21 pm CT 2 May 2008

AustonianAggie7:

Spears was pick #20, doesn’t collapse under the run, doesn’t do anything else

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2:21 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

ok, when the coaches take you out on passing downs and replace you with the 4th cb, uhhh nuff said.

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2:37 pm CT 2 May 2008

jevans1729:

boyz

O.K., I hear you. But the question then becomes who deserved it more? I don’t recall anyone screaming and yelling that their guy got screwed. I’m just trying to determine if this is a league wide thing i.e most SS are getting burnt, or is this specific to Roy? For example, Archuleta of the Bears sucks in coverage too. So is this a thing of offensive coordinators getting ahead of the curve on strong safeties? Or is is that Roy just sucks?

I guess the question is if everyone sucks worse than you do you still suck? Always remember a one eyed man is king in the land of the blind.

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2:45 pm CT 2 May 2008

Becho:

I am excited to see how Deon Anderson plays this year. He was decent in his rookie campaign and has an interesting story. Has “sacrifice” tattooed on his chest. Nice size too 5′10 241lbs. Maybe there was no need to draft a FB after all.

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2:55 pm CT 2 May 2008

Playmaker:

Roy Williams making the pro-bowl is a bigger joke than Larry Allen’s last couple of appearances.

There are backups better than Roy. RWilly always had coverage issues, but he used to make up for that by being a fierce hitter. Now he doesn’t even hit anyone. And he’s an awful tackler.

Dude got paid and stopped caring. He’s a disgrace to the star. And he used to be my favorite player. I would throw a party if he was cut.

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2:56 pm CT 2 May 2008

rha:

Becho,

Since you mentioned, actually the DMN guys sez Cricket has gained to 260, 20lbs heavier than last year. Sez he will lose it by September however, but rotator surgery was good and he is lifting, (420lbs already).

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3:08 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

playmaker and jevan,

same page playmaker - 100% agree. my friend in dallas who follows the boys like politicians follow money says rw was always on parcells ****list for being to heavy. also parcells told him 2-3 years ago that he needed a speed coach in the offseason and rw apparently didnt do it. maybe he has a really lucky season, like larry brown did in 1995 and al davis gives us a 2nd rd pick for him!! party! i love roy especially when he walks out the door.

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3:09 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

WHO IS CRICKET?!

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3:13 pm CT 2 May 2008

AustonianAggie7:

Deon “Cricket” Anderson, FB, noted eater of crickets

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3:13 pm CT 2 May 2008

torchinDefense:

playmaker,boysrockin and jevan,

Thong isn’t going anywhere at least this next season. Campo is back and is already conditioning RW. His lack of conditioning has been a problem the last few years. The other problem was his attitude, he doesn’t take to criticism too well. It’s not my fault. Look for Campo and all the haters to see an improved RW. He still will not cover that well but he’ll be a lot better when he’s in tip top shape.

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3:14 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

guys we all love to talk about the teams weaknesses, BUT we should be really happy after sooooo many miserable years…96-04. it was hard to be a fan for almost TEN YEARS. now we have one of youngest starting crews of anyone in the league. just look at all our young talent. 80% of the starters are 26yo or younger….amazing!

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3:17 pm CT 2 May 2008

boyzrockin:

Haters?! Are you a hater because you have very legitimate criticisms of a player? We ALL love roy, but for the last 2 yrs he has played very uninspired football. his fault, not the fans. id love to see roy cover like he did 4-5 yrs ago, but he will to drop 10-15 lbs and gain some speed.

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3:20 pm CT 2 May 2008

rha:

Boyz,

Deon Anderson

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3:25 pm CT 2 May 2008

Chandus:

The perfect size of a NT is an overrated subject.

When Jason Ferguson was with the Jets he was considered the best NT in the League, not because of his size, his techinque and motor made him the player that he used to be.

Last season Jay Ratliff used (in his own words) what Ferguson and La’Roi Glover thaught him to anchor against 2 OLinemans in run support and to rush the passer in one gap 3-4 schemes. He hardly played in pass rush 4 man fronts, probably what he does best, but he was a really good NT.

Is Casey Hampton the best 3-4 NT? No, the best NT is Jamal Williams, the guy has size and motor, the 2 things that also made Ted Washington a really good NT.

Being 6′1, 6′3 or 6′5 doesn’t means much, if you have a well proportioned build (for the position you need to have a lot of weight in your legs and mid section), techinque and motor you can play the position.

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3:41 pm CT 2 May 2008

stoproyce:

wtf Marvin Harrison being investigated in shooting? for real,wow.

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3:42 pm CT 2 May 2008

Becho:

I do not think it is bad that cricket put on 20lbs. If he can get back down to 240 that is really good, in fact because it means that we can expect him to grow muscularly. I am rooting for the guy. I also hope that our WRs surprise us this year.

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3:43 pm CT 2 May 2008

jevans1729:

Playmaker

O.K. Playmaker, you’re on. Name the backups that are better than Roy Williams. Once again, I am not defending his play. I’m just trying to determine how much criticism is fair and just?

After all, the guy was second on the team in tackles. His inside linebacker had almost half the amount that Roy did. I mean legitimately how many strong safetys can you say are better than Roy in the NFC east? Folks are talking about cutting the guy and while improvement is surely needed, I just think some of this criticism is a little over the top.

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4:03 pm CT 2 May 2008

birdness:

“That’s 15 other players. Do they all suck more than Roy?”

In terms of star power - yes, in terms of play - not all 15.

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4:06 pm CT 2 May 2008

birdness:

” guess the question is if everyone sucks worse than you do you still suck?”

Yes. Roy is the weakest link in the secondary. The position requires an upgrade, this year, the draft was not real deep for SS.

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4:08 pm CT 2 May 2008

torchinDefense:

boyzrockin,

hater

noun

1. one who player hates, that is -

disapproves of players.

2. one who is jealous.

Don’t be a hater just ’cause I’ve got the better car.

3.one who disapproves of something.

Don’t be a hater.

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4:11 pm CT 2 May 2008

torchinDefense:

by the way,

Roy W. never covered very well, in college or the NFL. His strengths have always been in the box close to the line of scrimmage.

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4:24 pm CT 2 May 2008

Playmaker:

What does Roy Williams do well? He is already a part-time player, that is what a joke his pro-boel selection is. He is removed on passing downs.

The year he injured Emmitt, he was knocking a player out of the game about once every two games. He was leaving a trail of carnage on the field. Ronnie Lott, when they retired his number on MNF, was saying that Williams was the next great safety.

Now he is a part-time player. He hasn’t hit anyone hard in two years, since he got that contract. His recognition skills are juvenile at best. He is slow, tries to hit people instead of wrapping them up, and doesn’t hit anyone hard anymore. Tackle numbers are misleading. He probably had a lot of tackles from playing behind Akin “Whiff” Ayodele.

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5:17 pm CT 2 May 2008

eastbay baracus:

We’re really still killing Roy, huh?

And this is not to make excuses for Roy, but there’s a reason he plays SS and not FS. He does not play the deep middle well and most running plays either go up the middle or to the strong side, hence, we put Roy there to bottle up the run. The fact that he was 2nd on the team (or whatever it was) in tackles means that he made plenty of plays. Should we expect more? Maybe, but to kill a guy the way that we do because he doesn’t make the plays that we expect him to is over the top in my eyes. And I’m sorry to point this out, but isn’t it smart to say that if a player is not as good in passing situations that we sub him out in those situations? To me, there’s a reason that we take out Spears on passing downs too…we want more of a pass rush and have players that provide that better than him. So if we have a player that is better in coverage, why not put him out there? We do want the strongest team on the field at all times don’t we?

Also, too many commenters on here want it both ways. They want to complain that Roy doesn’t hit anyone anymore, but then complain that he doesn’t wrap up and only goes for the big hit. They complain that he’s a liability in coverage, but then also complain when he’s taken out on passing downs because that implies he’s not very good. I know that Roy has not been the dynamic player that hurt Marshall Faulk 4 years ago by blasting him in the hole. But he has value to our team. If you don’t see it, cool. But who on our roster would you replace him with? Can anyone even name 5 really good strong safties? After Rodney Harrison, I’m drawing a blank. Most every top safety in the league plays either FS or is a hybrid safety that does everything well…I mean, Polomalu, Reed, Wilson (Cardinals), Dawkins, Bob Sanders, (the late) Sean Taylor. Besides these elite guys, who would you rather have? Now if we’re talking salary, then I conceed a small point, but at the time that Roy was re-upped, I totally saw the logic in re-signing one of the most popular players who had been to consecutive pro-bowls and was really a household name who had historically performed well for us.

If you need a whipping boy, join Tex, he has plenty of names for us all.

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6:12 pm CT 2 May 2008

jevans1729:

eastbay

Your post #44 is all I’m tring to say. At least you named some safties and you are correct in your hybrid assessment. Taking your comments into consideration, that makes Roy 6th best out of 32. All our players can’t be rated #1 at their postions.

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6:19 pm CT 2 May 2008

Playmaker:

I would like to see Hamlin at SS, and Henry at FS.

If Pacman is reinstated, and Jenkins can play well enough to be a nickel corner, they could do this.

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6:36 pm CT 2 May 2008

smackpat:

Wow… Looks like Marvin Harrison shot a guy and lied to the cops about the details surrounding it. Atleast Pacman never shot a guy right?

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7:30 pm CT 2 May 2008

realist:

I can’t remember the where and when-
but very recently, on the official site maybe?, I read a quote from someone with the team that this idea of moving Henry to free safety is only talked about by fans, and has not even been CONSIDERED by the team.

Someone want to corroborate?

Give it a rest, guys. All you do is create one hole trying to fix another. We need all the depth possible at CB. The odds of Henry going to FS are almost nil.

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7:37 pm CT 2 May 2008

realist:

I think there’s some truth to Roy being maybe a little out of shape-
But if you rewatched some of the big plays against our D last year, a LOT of times Henry and Willliams, or Hamlin and RW, or even Hamlin and Henry, would be looking at each other and talking , looking confused.

I think a lot of it’s mental.

I’d like to blame the coaches, but those guys have too much experience. Sometimes you get beat-that’s OK. But no way should those guys, with their years of playing, be looking at each other and gesturing in the 11th game of the season!

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7:39 pm CT 2 May 2008

torchinDefense:

smackpat,

you may be wrong ref post47

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8:02 pm CT 2 May 2008

Fighter15:

Not to intentionally change the subject from the riveting debate on Roy Willy (gee, I’ve never heard this before)…but our rookies are in town trying to earn jobs.

Well, which ones have a shot and at whose expense?

RB is obvious. There’s 4 spots and 4 guaranteed candidates: MBIII, Jones, Choice, Cricket.

QB is set for now, but look for a veteran FA (Simms?) to relegate Bartel back to the practice squad.

TE is set. Same for OL. Just don’t see any of the rookie FAs as anything more than camp fodder & PS.

WR is interesting. This Amendola guy & Jefferson (PS last year) could very well push Hurd & Austin. Great camp battle to watch.

DL is set. Dixon may be able to push the bottom of the roster.

LB comes down to Walden vs Long & Rogers. I’d say this is easily the most stable position, though the progress of Carpenter should be an offseason soap opera.

DB is easily the most interesting. Tons of talent, 10 spots. Whose the odd men out? My guess is several very good young players will have to be let go. I’ll be watching.

Some interesting notes on dc.com. Carpenter moving to the other ILB spot, behind Zach. Should enable him some playing time. We could very well see Burnett & Carpenter on the field at the same time.

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8:24 pm CT 2 May 2008

Jim Vance:

This is from Mickey Spagnola’s mail onn Dallascowboys.com from May 1.

Richard Duncan, Henderson, Texas: Teams did all they could to exploit Roy Williams last year and will do so again. Are you surprised the Cowboys haven’t done anything to address that issue? Or are they banking that one of the safeties on the roster will improve?

Mickey: They are banking on one of the safeties on the roster improving. His name is Roy Williams, the 2002 first-round draft choice during Dave Campo’s watch and I think the Cowboys are banking on Campo bringing out the best in Williams or at least holding him accountable for his play. Again, Williams’ poor play at times has less to do with his talent and more to do with his preparation. Camps is already working on that, I understand. And with the plethora of cornerbacks the Cowboys might have, pending Adam Jones’ reinstatement, the addition of Zach Thomas and the continued good health of Kevin Burnett, Roy very well might be reduced to a two-down safety even more if he doesn’t improve.

Even Spags , who is kind of a comapny toad admits the obvious….Roy (Thong)hasn’t played well.

The argument is..He was a pro-bowler. Some people vote a name that they recognize, not necessarily because they know how well he plays. Roy had a reputation, and he has that United Way gig for publicity. The other players and coaches are most likely going to vote for their guys, meaning the vote gets divided 31 ways. Thong wins by default.

Some argue, ..He led the team in tackles…if the LB in front of you is missing tackles and the opposing teams are finding you in coverage and throwing at you, you SHOULD be making tackles.

The key issue is, if you aren’t that good in coverage, but you could lay a guy out with a hit…one can kind of compensate for the other because a WR is worried about getting clocked and loses concentration, drops balls, etc. He isn’t even popping people any more.

My biggest beef ,with him and Carpenter is, they took up 1st round picks AND 1st round money. No excuses guys, you’re a 1st rounder in the NFL, produce at a high level or expect to be blistered by the press and the fans.

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8:27 pm CT 2 May 2008

Jim Vance:

realist re post #48

I think you read that on Spags email

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8:31 pm CT 2 May 2008

cowboy bert:

The Cowboys went long at WR last year because Glenn and Stanback were both hurt. Don’t expect that to happen again. Expect one roster spot to go elsewhere if somebody else impresses, unless these are THE BEST ST guys available.

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8:42 pm CT 2 May 2008

Martyn:

Just read an interesting nugget on the teams website.

Tthey are moving Carpenter over to Akin’s old spot. It seems like the team is doing what it can to give him a shot at playing.

They must have some faith in him if his is going to be the guy if Thomas goes down.

In addition, this also probably can give the team some flexibility with personal during games. Maybe Carpenter will come in some on 1st and 2nd down with James. On passing downs Burnett and Thomas can sub in. This would give Carpenter a chance to contribute and keep James and Thomas fresh down the stretch.

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10:21 pm CT 2 May 2008

Raul Villaronga:

realist:

Henry actually said he’d move if the team wanted him to.

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10:32 pm CT 2 May 2008

Jim Vance:

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/05/five-more.html

Updates from the afternoon rookie session (Jenkins, Scandrick, Bartel, Amendola)

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10:54 pm CT 2 May 2008

THEAIRFORCEBAT2:

Eastbaybaracus: I agree with you about Roy somewhat.

The problem myself and most of the people on here have with Roy isn’t the fact that he sucks at coverage.

He hasn’t ever been great at coverage, its the fact that is there anything he really does exceptionally well anymore? He misses tackles REGULARLY, and that big hitting safety that used to be here… doesn’t exist. I know ONE big hit that he laid last year, and that was on Ryan Grant coming up through the middle. He never knocked the crap out of a wideout and he is constantly picked on.

You say that aren’t alot of safeties you hear that are that much better then Roy.. but you know why you don’t hear about them? Because people don’t constantly pick on JUST them. Roy gets targeted so many times its ridiculous.

Hey dude I just to LOVE (not literally but you know…) Roy Williams. However it seems like he doesn’t even TRY to get better. He never takes responsibilities for his faults.

I mean, I get your post. Its well thought out and pretty accurate to a point, but he’s more a liability then an asset.

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10:56 pm CT 2 May 2008

realist:

I’ve heard that too, Raul
But I think JVance may be right, but whereever it was from it was a source from the team.

I just think it’s unlikely, unless this rookie comes in playing at a very high level, AND AdJones comes back and plays at a very high level.

Those 2 with TNew all playing well would afford the flexibility.

The odds of that happening are about the same as drilling in Anwar.

We need Henry at CB, and I don’t believe the coaches have seriously looked at moving him and (presumably) benching Roy.

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11:01 pm CT 2 May 2008

THEAIRFORCEBAT2:

“torchinDefense:

playmaker,boysrockin and jevan,

Thong isn’t going anywhere at least this next season. Campo is back and is already conditioning RW. His lack of conditioning has been a problem the last few years. The other problem was his attitude, he doesn’t take to criticism too well. It’s not my fault.”

I agree with all of that statement except “its not his fault.” Roy is a 27 year old man who is supposed to be a tough guy. How is not taking criticism well, having a bad attitude, and poor conditioning NOT his fault?

That is ENTIRELY his fault.

I’m not saying it can’t be fixed, but give me a break. The guy is a veteran player now, he needs to prepare like one.

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11:44 pm CT 2 May 2008

Jim Vance:

realist-

This may be what you were reading nd it is from Mickey Spagnola’s “Mick’s Mail” on Dallascowboys.com (May 1)

Matt Spangler, Amarillo, Texas: With Keith Davis gone, do you think that it would be a good idea to move Anthony Henry to safety or would it be better to groom Pat Watkins? Is there any talk of what they might do?

Mickey: Any time that question came up over the weekend, it was met with a look of bewilderment, meaning, why would you be asking me if we are going to move the cornerback who led us with six interceptions last year to safety? The question also was repeatedly met with the answer, no, we haven’t even given that any thought at this time. That seems to be more of a media/fan thing than an organizational thought. Plus, who is Henry starting for at safety? You paid a good chunk of cash to him to simply waste on the bench in just nickel situations. Yeah, keep grooming Watkins and Courtney Brown, who does have a nose for the ball.

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12:24 am CT 3 May 2008

cormanman:

Mickey is a dumbass.

I respect Henry but he plays off his man and baits the QB to throw at him. Sometimes he picks it off and sometimes he allows completions.

He is what he is, feat or famine.

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12:24 am CT 3 May 2008

cormanman:

feast or famine

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12:46 am CT 3 May 2008

Tex:

Mrs. Doubtfire forbids blogging from Miami mini camp… what a fossil. Parcells was always a NY Giant in sheep’s clothing. Quick, somebody send Tex a page.

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12:47 am CT 3 May 2008

Tex:

Henry and Hamlin at the two safety positions… Roy becomes a rover.

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2:14 am CT 3 May 2008

Becho:

So I hope you all do not mind a long post. Although it is incredibly early to do a roster analysis I did one anyway because several of us have brought up the lack of roster spots. One note though: I have done a 54 man roster analysis in anticipation of injury. At the end I propose extra cuts in the awesome case of no injuries.

Offense
QB: Romo, Johnson
FB: Anderson
RB: MB3, F. Jones, Choice
TE: Witten, Curtis, Bennett
WR: Owens, Crayton, Glenn, Hurd, Stanback, Austin
OT: Adams, Colombo, Free, Marten
C: Gurode
G: Davis, Koiser, Proctor, McQuistian

Specialist
P: McBriar K: Folk LS: Ladoucer

Defense:
OLB: Ware, Ellis, Spencer, Walden,
ILB: James, Thomas, Burkett, Carpenter
S: Hamlin, Watkins, Williams, Brown
CB: Newman, Henry, A. Jones, Jenkins, Ball, Scandrick
NT: Ratliff, Tank
DE: Canty, Spears, Hatcher, Bowen

Best players left and kept on roster BPA: Savii, Amendola, Berger

Who gets cut if there are no injuries? Austin 52rd cut, Berger 53rd cut, Walden 54th cut
I think Walden can make it to the practice squad. It comes down to Amendola and Austin for the 6th WR spot. Austin had 5 receptions for 76 yrds last year. He has to show something in camp to stay. Walden, Savii, Ball, Brown, Bowen are all on the bubble. We need players at S, CB, and NT. Bowen is the best among these 5.

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6:18 am CT 3 May 2008

donnyposner:

realist-

You got the post about moving Henry to FS by me.

OK. So the word from Spagnola (right now) is that Henry will remain at CB, but consider that the word during the draft has been that 1rst rounders must play.

If Jones returns
TNew & AJones are the best Cbs on the team.
You also have Henry, Jenkins, and Scandrick who is better than his draft position.

Williams will be given an oppurtunity to improve but if the last 2 years show anything, he is done. Courtney Brown will be given the oppurtunity to show he is capable of manning FS in the event that Hamlin moves to SS.

These are if’s but realistic possibilities—
If Williams fails and Courtney Brown isn’t up to manning FS, then Henry will move to FS.

So far this year, there has been no word from team officials. That word came last year, when there was talk of Moving Henry to FS.

Although there is no talk of it yet, if AJones does return, I expect you see Henry playing some FS during training camp.

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9:50 am CT 3 May 2008

jarhead:

very interesting happenings today on marvin harrison.

the man hasnt been convicted of anything yet, but the fact that a man was shot outside of his bar, with his gun makes the case at least equal to what the pacman jones incident has been (although pacman has been involved in more than one incident).

it also seems clear that the shooting victim was recently in a fight with harrison.

i used harrison in an analogy about two years ago. i suggested that if it had been him, and not TO, who had returned to play well in a SB after breaking his leg (thanks to the thong), he would have IMMEDIATELY been hailed as a hero by the mainstream media.

though they have reported this, there is nothing like the front page circus that would follow a similar incident with pacman or TO.

it is very possible that marvin harrison has shot someone. how this will be handled will be very interesting. ill be watching mr. goodell.

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10:28 am CT 3 May 2008

Playmaker:

Of course they won’t discuss Henry being moved to safety right now. Even if they have a *wink wink* about Pacman from Roger Goodell, they have to assume right now that they can’t count on him, and Jenkins may not be ready for prime time. The pieces would have to fall into place for the team to make such a move.

But consider: the team ABSOLUTELY discussed moving Henry to FS in previous offseasons, so their incredulous denials are difficult to believe. Henry was a FS in college. Cormanman’s scouting report has some truth to it, but isn’t that what a FS does? Henry’s skills really seem suited for this position, and Hamlin I believe is a natural SS.

They can’t plan for this, but if Jones is reinstated, shows up playing anywhere close to how he used to play…..and Jenkins steps up, I guarantee you that this will be discussed as a serious option. If either Pacman or Jenkins can’t be counted on, the idea is out the window. But in a perfect world, this would be ideal.

Do you guys really think that Dave Freakin Campo is going to light a fire under Roy Williams? That is laughable. So Big Bad Bill Parcells couldn’t get Roy to work hard at his craft, but Milktoast Dave Campo is going to put the fear of God in him? HAHAHAHAHAHA

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10:45 am CT 3 May 2008

pecos_slim:

I think it’s clear “lighting a fire under Roy Williams” wasn’t going to happen with Bill Parcells’ methods. I don’t see Roy as someone who is motivated by intimidation and manipulation…not that I have a clue what DOES cause him to wake up.

Something’s gotten into Roy’s head. He’s one bad mofo who lost his mojo. Maybe Campo can figure it out and help the guy. If not, by Game 8 Roy might be playing behind Hamlin at SS. Then we’ll all be railing on Watkins’ or Brown’s play at FS, cause I’m a doubter than Henry will move to FS. Too many if’s - the Gangsta reinstated, Jenkins or Scandrick the reincarnation of everson walls, etc.

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10:47 am CT 3 May 2008

Gray:

Miami wanted Bobby Carpenter in trade - Jerry said no.

http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/620519.html

Carpenter to play inside:

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=AC067EA7-BB86-45B6-04D56F653F8BD13F

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11:36 am CT 3 May 2008

oneforthethumb:

My money is on Campo helping Roy out.

we get a consistent pass rush and Roy won’t look that bad.

Too much time for the QB allows even the best DB to look foolish.

Let’s mix the bliztes up this year and not blitz up the middle the entire game.

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12:16 pm CT 3 May 2008

torchinDefense:

THEAIRFORCEBAT2,

I wasn’t very clear. Okay, note to self, no blogging after a few (4)microbrews. I should have put that statement in quotes. I had meant to say “It’s not my fault Williams” should be his new name. RW is very defensive when it comes to his play, so much so that he cannot take any criticism. That is a sign of a huge ego and will get him released sooner than later.

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12:37 pm CT 3 May 2008

CaptainComeback:

Raf and Raul, Should you any Graphic needs (redesign logo etc…) when moving the Blog, I am a Graphic Designer. I should have volunteered my services before but I was to occupied with the draft. Of course my services would be free of charge. Anything for the Blog.

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12:54 pm CT 3 May 2008

Jim Vance:

I’m encouraged by Gray’s post #71 with Miami asking for carpenter.

I was bothered that, as loyal as Parcells can be, that he didn’t seem to want Carp….now I find that he actually did…albeit at bargain basement rates. A 4th round pick for a 2nd rounder and a 1st rounder.

I would really be glad to see Carpenter live up to his potential.

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7:55 am CT 5 May 2008

sam0807:

Raf, From the dMN blog, looks like my guy Bradford can play! interesting, too could Scandrick be better than Jenkins and can Bartel keep a vet out of camp to keep an extra rook???

Bradford makes play: Stanford product Mark Bradford, the hero of the Cardinal’s shocker over USC last week, got Orlando Scandrick crossed up on a double move and hauled in a ball 60 yards downfield on a skinny post. That passed for the play of the day in a short practice.

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