It’s that time of the year. Draft preps have been fun but not it’s time to think of cool days on the California coast.
Thank you Jerry. After a summer of broiling in San Antonio — yeah, they practiced in a dome, but you still had to go outside into roasting heat — we campers can again look forward to fog rolling in for the morning practices, sweater weather for those sessions and the ability to watch practice just feet away from the players.
And here’s where you come in. I’ve been able to bring you coverage due to your generosity and I’ll need it again this year. One week is a sure thing but a good return will keep me in Oxnard from opening to close.
I’ll gladly sing, or blog for my supper. We were the first to blog from camp, a year before Matt Mosley started his Cowboys Blog. And I think we’re good for it. Here are some reports from ‘05, ‘06 and ‘07. See if we got it right:
– Here’s an ‘05 camp recap;
– Here’s an ‘06 report that shows Tony Romo already had the quickest draw on the team;
– Here’s an ‘07 report on the push to make Demarcus Ware a smarter rusher.
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69 Comments to ‘On To Oxnard!’: »
BishopWest:
I can hardly wait for your Camp Notes this year. It is great having a “partner” on site with a trained eye giving up-to-the-minute details on players and schemes.
This year we should see marked improvement in the rushing skills of Spencer; and I can hardly wait to hear reports of the speed and elusiveness of Felix Jones.
Travlr:
A sound investment indeed! Contributions are paid back with dividends when realizing one has the best intel in the office on the draft and camp goings on.
Remember y’all, the more Raf sees first hand, the better his year ’round insights become.
Is is too early to begin the Felix for Rookie of the year voting? ![]()
KDP_KINGPIN:
I just threw a couple dollars towards the cause. Hope it helps, this is the only place with true insight into the Cowboys. Can you imagine if all we had was Albert Breer and Tim McMahon feeding us info??
$25 bucks on the waaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!! Go get ‘em Raf!!!!
petrdragin:
Just because the draft is over doesn’t mean the roster is finalized yet—DO NOT BE SURPRISED if Dallas trades it’s next year’s 1st and 3rd/4th for Williams or Bouldin. This may not happened until June or so but I think it would be a great thing to do!!!
alds15:
Hey Raf, If ESPN Comes a Knockin are you gonna pull a Matt Mosely? Lol Just teasing.
petrdragin,
If it happens it will happen during camp. That’s when player can hold out and act on their demands for more money or a new location.
alds,
Depends on how much you guys pay me to stay right here. ![]()
Tim Wilson:
Any more word on the Terence Newman contract grumblings? I don’t fault Terence for wanting $, I just wondered if there had been any update. Would hate to see a holdout from one of our top 3 players.
VAFan (from last thread),
Henry did pick off 10 passes in his first year, but it was as a nickel CB, not a FS. Same role ini which Antonio Cromartie picked off 10 last year.
sam0807:
Raf,
Is this right? Did the Boys sign my man, Mark Bradford, WR from Stanford??
Polk was one of three receivers the Cowboys agreed to terms with after the draft, joining Texas Tech’s Danny Amendola and Stanford’s Mark Bradford.
Jim Vance:
Bear with me on this-
Two tourists, one from Czechoslovakia and one from France, both huge Cowboy fans visited training camp in San Antone last year. While there, they went to Seaworld, and when one leaned too far over the killer whale tank and began to fall the other tried to be a hero and both fell in and were immediately swallowed whole, one each by the two killer whales. With great drama over this tragedy, they caught the whales, and split the female open to find the body of the Frenchman there, which was flown home for burial.
As far as Oxnard, I couldn’t muster up enough cash to send, but I did send (collect) an old Ayodele and a Fasano jersey as well as a Bill Parcells Autographed Man-zeer that I thought Raf could sell and use the proceeds while in Oxnard. Just kidding.
By the way, the Czech is in the male.
Trey:
It’s been boiling down here in Oxnard. We had near record heat yesterday. It was 82! One degree from the all time high for that date.
Seriously we did get a bump up to 93 last week which is strange weather for the coast, but most of camp should be in the 70s.
Looking forward to camp and plan to attend more days this year then I did in 2006. I did it right in 2005 and took off work for a couple of weeks. Has a camp schedule for 2008 been posted?
Trey:
At camp we will learn a lot about how natural a reciever Felix is and if the Cowboys line him up wide in some formations and how he looks in the return game.
I can already tell you that F. Jones will look great running in camp.
Vision and raw speed rule the day when defenders are not allowed to hit. In the last few camps J. Jones looked better then Barber did in camp and TT looked better then either one of them.
Other then a few scrimages they do not hit the running backs in camp. Likewise the backs never cut block blitizing linebackers in camp. This makes the overall effectivness of running backs hard to evaluate in camp.
The fact that TT could not block and J. Jones hesitates too much when the real hitting starts are difficult to see as a fan attending camp. (Heck Parcell’s said this aspect of a player was hard to evaluate when your the coach and you knew the assignment.)
Magic:
Just PayPal’d $25.
Keep up the best-in-class work.
Jim Vance:
I’m most interested in the WRs and DBs in camp this year.
The FAs- Who looks like a keeper?
The Vets- How does Terry Glenn run and cut? Is Stanback ever going to get on the field and contribute? Hurd and Austin, what’s the buzz?
Can Bennett block AND is he another viable weapon downfield?
The DBs- How are they using Jenkins, how does he look? Pacman! I hope he’s there and in good shape. Any strip joints in Oxnard? Are they using Thong at all or has he been relegated to ST?
Any FA DBs look like keepers?
Booby Carpenter- Is he in the mix?
Finally, how does the Offense look as a unit? Someone a few threads back said they knew we were alright with the Felix pick when he saw that huge smile on Garret’s face in the war room. I remember it too, he was beaming.
Slide910:
We should plan some kind of toast on here to kick off camp. We meet on here at the same time and throw back a shot of our favorite whatever to hopefully bless the camp and maybe it’ll go injury free.
Raf,
Thank for the hardwork. I sent $50 via paypal (jody@prismnet.com)
I own my own ISP in Austin. I have a data center. Drop me a line if you are interested…
Squidlo97:
I dont know about Felix’s between the tackle vision. We will see about that in Sept. I know Garrett will put him everywhere but it would be a bonus if he could run better than Bush when lined up like a traditional back.
joey2zs:
If he does run like Bush, then he should have an unfair advantage in Tampa, Jacksonville and Miami.
Nan_L:
Raf & Raul
I finally bit the bullet and started posting , this is my first post in this blog , but I am one of your readers in the last year. Now I contributed some $ for your Oxnard (which I am eagerly looking forward) and decided to become a poster also.
Slide910:
One name I’m surprised no one has mentioned since our drafting of two new RBs is Hudson Houck. Is his specialty pass blocking, run blocking, or both? I know he was at San Diego a while…. they seem to run the ball average or above average.
Slide910:
Welcome Nan
It’s always nice to see a lurker join the posts
MUSICCITYNORM:
Nan “The Man” , welcome!
falconPUNCH:
I’m most interested in…
the progression of Hurd and Austin
The health of Glenn
the 2 great WR RFA pick ups (Armendola and Bradford, names?)
Marcus Dixon
An even better Ware
birdness:
“Value on Dallas’ picks, from Gosselin’s composite board:
Jenkins 15th;
Jones 21st;
Bennett 46th;
They got value at every selection.”
I watched the draft and walked away in disgust. I came back after the trade up for Jenkins and was disgusted about moving up for somebody Jerry could have had at #22
Selecting a RB complement at #22 is not smart, selecting that player when a top 3 RB is there is insane. I’ve never seen Jones rated above Mendenhall.
Felix Jones < Mendenhall, Thomas, Jenkins
Still I’m all for Jones, huray,
Trading our backup TE and starting ILB for a 4th and then drafting a TE in the second makes believe that Jerry will dismantle/destroy this team within 3 years. Maybe Jerry should give some 09 picks to the Dolphins is they are willing to take Spears.
If Jerry had to have a TE over what most believed was a real need in WR, then draft him, but make him beat your second TE before cutting or trading that former 2nd round player.
I’m a Bennet fan too - double hurray.
I’m so happy the draft is over. Jerry got his Razorback, and just missed moving up to #25 for Manningham. Good thing none of the other teams in our division filled their needs with high potential prospects or added early 09 picks.
Tighthead:
Falcon - I want to see if Stanback has made any progress toward playing. I don’t want to see a 4th rounder redshirt for two years.
Tex:
Tex is back from his Mexican vacation, and was very pleased on a number of fronts:
- Shipping out the remaining Bill Parcells moles like Fasano and Adoyele was genius… even for a bag of chips.
Zach Thomas has 52 tackles in five games, Akin had 57 in 16 games. Plus, this is year three for Carpenter… expect a big leap.
Felix Jones is the perfect fit… the speed this offense needed. A little disappointed in the lack of a WR or QB, but two positions of weakness (CB/RB), just became points of major strength & depth.
The return game gets a MAJOR jolt and this Texas Tech receiver could stick in the slot. Tex was most pleased with the Choice selection and with the continued cleaning of that leftover Tuna smell.
PS: Henry to safety.
falconPUNCH:
tighthead,
ah, yes.
I forgot about young, Isiah.
His potential is so very intriguing…
birdness:
I forgot my last Felix Jones is great value and he wouldn’t have lasted to #28 rant.
Let’s say the Boys passed on both Mendenhall and Jones at #22.
Sure the Steelers may have taken a change of pace RB to run with their change of pace starter– probably not so Mendenhall would still go here even with Jones available.
The Titans may have wanted a player with Jones’ skill set when they drafted Chris Johnson, or they may have believed (just like me), that Johnson has a superior skill set. Johnson is much faster, a better WR and lead the nation in return yards. Please don’t try the Felix Jones is proven in the SEC, because they are the same size, one is just much faster and neither is proven in the NFL.
People knock WR Malcom Kelly because he’s slow and has bad knees. Jones is faster than Kelly by about 0.15 seconds in the 40. Johnson’s time beats jones by 0.20 seconds. Jones is football fast, Johnson is world class fast.
Likewise if Jones was their for the Chargers they may have gone in that direction, but who cares, Jerry could have drafted Mendenhall and still traded up for Jenkins, or drafted Jenkins, watched Mendenhall go, probably Jones too, and drafted a superior complement in Chris Johnson at #28.
Jerry could have kept Fasanos and Ayodale, had Thomas at #22, traded up for Jenkins at #25 and still come away with nice RB at #61,
The draft is over, my view of real value doesn’t matter.
Go Felix, go Martellus
Squidlo97:
birdness, Bennett is a 2nd round pick. he doesnt have to beat out anyone he just cant totally suck. Someone was leaving back in March when they fell in love with this guy and decided to draft him. Cut your loses and get what you can. It doesnt matter if you like it or not, it the price of dointg business.
birdness:
So Fasano and Ayodale totally suck? One sits behind an All Pro TE, the other was a starter. Can Bennett beat out Witten - no.
I’m not against drafting him, if that’s who the scouts love. I’m against a free pass when Fasano has a contract.
Maybe Fasono and Ayodale can’t make the team and a 4th looks good, but maybe Zach gets his bell rung in a scrimage and has to retire, likewise Witten can twist a knee and do you want a guy with some time or a rookie chipping that DE?
Fine with the draft, I don’t like that trade. Maybe somebody can show my why the cap numbers are so much better.
Tighthead:
Glad we didn’t trade Ellis when we drafted Carps.
Gray:
Felix & family on draft day - seems like a good kid.
Chandus:
Fasano doesn’t suck, few poor informed souls have said that, but it wasn’t just a matter of him sitting behind an All Pro.
- In red zone opportunities they would replace him with Curtis or a FB, why?
- They would also replace him with a FB in short yardage sits or just because the Coaches wanted a FB blocking. Why?
- They would also replace him with a 3rd or 4th WR in passing situations, even when the talent of a Hurd or Austin is still questionable. Why?
- They would also replace him for the 2 back set (Jones and Barber) that the team used here and there. Why?
The team’s been trying to replace him.
ElBerraco:
So, one of the reasons I dont love the Felix pick is he just doesnt look top 25 fast to me. And I may have just figured out why. I dont watch too much college ball, but when I do, it’s usually Florida or Miami. Well, the DMN blog has a link to a youtube clip of percy harvin highlights, who I have watched a lot of the last two years. now that guy is FAST, that guy can JUKE. i mean - it’s insane. anyway, that probably isnt really very fair to felix, for many reasons, not the least of which is that felix has 20+ pounds on harvin. anyway, i am willing to give felix the benefit of the doubt, especially now that he is not just a potential draft pick but actually on the team. i’m just saying if you really want to be amazed by speed and moves, look at that harvin video.
Trey:
Fasano did not need to be accounted for in the passing game. A team did not every need to put a coverage type guy in to account for the two TE set.
Part of what a two tight end set offers if the defending team has to have someone who can cover either TE because you do not know which one is going to go out. If teams have safety types for covering your TE then you over power them and if they have over sized linebackers over them you burn them down the seam.
Fasano turned out to be one dimminsional. He was drafted to replace Cambell because Cambell was only one of the best blocking TE in the game and the scheme called for me. In that one respect Fasano is a bust. He proved to be a downgrade from Cambell as a blocker and not an upgrade as a recieving threat.
When you miss on an importnat piece then you need to take another swing.
Trey:
Take two on that last paragraph.
Fasano turned out to be one dimminsional. He was drafted to replace Cambell because Cambell was also one diminsional. Cambell was one of the best blocking TE in the game and the scheme the team wanted to (wants to) run called for two multidimmionsional Tight Ends.
In that one respect Fasano is a bust. He proved to be a downgrade from Cambell as a blocker and not an upgrade as a recieving threat.
When you miss on an important piece then you need to take another swing.
Ridgelake:
Good answer, Trey
Gmoney:
I don’t know how to post a link (little help?!?!?), but Rivals has listed the best players NOT drafted.
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=802409
Pretty interesting.
I can’t beleive neither Zenon from LSU nor Griffen from TX were drafted!
I also thought Temple, the RB from Mizzou, earned at least a low draft spot on some team with his performance in the Cotton Bowl.
…and both Bowman and Savage from OKSU were left untouched.
What a tough day for those kids.
Anybody see where Mike Hart ended up?
chris villaronga:
HEY GUYS I WASN’T SURE IF ANYONE SAW THIS ON DC.COM BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE.. THE TRANSCRIPTS ON MIKE JENKINS GETTING DRAFTED…
Despite being a first-round pick, it’s unlikely South Florida’s Mike Jenkins will be the most recognized of the new cornerbacks on this team.
That distinction will undoubtedly go to Pacman Jones, whose trade to the Cowboys will be finalized on Sunday.
But even though Jenkins might have been a bit disappointed to fall to the 25th overall pick, there was plenty of excitement at his Florida home. In fact, a little too much joy for his mother, who had to be taken to the hospital immediately following his selection.
Overcome with anxiety, Jenkins’ mother fainted and was rushed to a nearby hospital, where Jenkins was en route to while he spoke to the media on his conference call, an hour after being drafted.
On if he was surprised to be picked by the Cowboys:
JENKINS: Oh yes - definitely surprised. I really wasn’t getting any vibes from Dallas during this whole process, but that’s what surprised me the most, especially after they picked up Pacman Jones.
On what his relationship with Cowboys cornerback and South Florida alum Anthony Henry is like:
JENKINS: He graduated before me, so I really didn’t know him, but he came about two years ago and we got to know each other and since then he pretty much sent me a text before every one of my games to let me know what I’m doing right or wrong.
On if he was bothered that he was picked later in the first round:
JENKINS: I was definitely bothered by it. I thought I was going to be going between the top 10-20 picks because I had a lot of interest from those teams. After the 20th pick, where I thought the Buccaneers would take me, the Cowboys gave me a call and definitely took me off my feet. I was a little upset at first, but there’s nothing I can do about it right now by being upset. So right now, I’m just happy to be a Cowboy.
On how he feels about the possibility to play with Pacman Jones:
JENKINS: Well, besides all the other things that have been going on, I’ve heard that he’s a great player on the field. I don’t really try to get onto all the off the field things, but I definitely think that I can go in and learn from him.
On if he’ll be able to step into a pro system and play right now:
JENKINS: Oh yes. I’m trying to, but if it doesn’t work then I’ll definitely be ready on special teams to help the team out.
On if he looks at this team as a better situation because they do have veteran starters in place:
JENKINS: They definitely have a lot of experience playing the game and I feel like I could come in and learn a lot behind them.
On if he feels that he needs to be challenged to perform at his best:
JENKINS: No. It’s the NFL, so I’m definitely going to be pushed every day.
On how much he talked to the Cowboys in this draft process:
JENKINS: None. I don’t think I spoke to them once.
On if he spoke to them during the NFL Combine:
JENKINS: Yes, I spoke to them at the Combine and we went into a meeting in a room and I had another meeting with them on the first day. That was the only time I talked to them.
On who he talked to:
JENKINS: The head coach, the GM, defensive back and pretty much the whole staff.
On his style of play on the field:
JENKINS: I’m definitely physical. I like playing man and I like being by myself; I like being matched up one-on-one, which is how I’ve pretty much been my whole career.
On even though he may not be starting, that he will be able to have an immediate impact on the team at least on special teams:
JENKINS: I definitely think I can come in and start on special teams and help the team out.
On if he’s heard from Anthony Henry yet:
JENKINS: I haven’t really checked my phone yet. I have a whole heap of missed calls and a whole heap of text messages. He probably did, but I haven’t checked yet.
On as a kick returner, what the fun is about returning kicks:
JENKINS: I played running back in high school, so I tried to play both ways in college but my coach wouldn’t let me and told me to focus on cornerback. I definitely like returning the ball and having the ball in my hands. Every time I have a ball in my hands I do good things with it.
On if he was born in Germany:
JENKINS: Yes, I was born in Nuremburg, Germany. My father was in the Marines. I was only in Germany for about a month.
On what he knows about the Cowboys’ cornerback situation:
JENKINS: I just know they let (Jacques) Reeves go to Houston. They have Terence Newman is there, Pacman is there and Anthony Henry. That’s pretty much all I know because I don’t really follow the Cowboys like that, or really any NFL team. I always followed just players.
On if he relishes the fact that Wade Phillips likes to put pressure on the quarterback which allows the cornerbacks to make plays:
JENKINS: Definitely. I like playing one-on-one and having to press. Any pressure that they give, I like it, because it gives me the opportunity to make plays.
On when he will be coming to town:
JENKINS: I haven’t talked to them yet. I’m actually on my way to the hospital because my mom fell out when they called my name. So I was checking on that and they said they’d call me later.
On if she fainted:
JENKINS: Yes. She’s okay.
On if he was watching the draft at his house with his family:
JENKINS: I was at the house with my immediate family and a couple of friends.
chris villaronga:
HERE IS THE TRANSCRIPT FROM DC.COM WHEN FELIX JONES GOT DRAFTED…
Since Cowboys owner Jerry Jones bought the team in 1989, he was never drafted a player from Arkansas, the school he attended and played football for back in the 1960’s.
While he has signed a few former Razorbacks through free agency, not since the team drafted Felix Jones on Saturday has he drafted one of his own.
Jones, a native of Tulsa, Okla., sounded rather excited to be going to the Cowboys with the 22nd pick.
Here’s his transcript of his conference call with the media, less than 20 minutes after he was selected.
On playing for the Dallas Cowboys:
FELIX JONES: Oh man, I’m excited. I grew up watching this team. Now I am going to have a chance to play for them and play with that star on my helmet and I am going to make the best of it.
On the chance this would happen:
FELIX JONES: I did have a good feeling about this. When I finally got picked by Mr. Jones it was special. It was something I am going to cherish for the rest of my life.
On indications from Jerry:
FELIX JONES: When we talked, he just said I was very interested and we will see when I get on the clock. He told me when he called me am I ready - I said yes, sir.
On sharing the load:
FELIX JONES: We can learn from each other like me and Darren learned from each other. It will be a great learning process learning from him and get to play beside him.
On how much he talked to Jerry over years:
FELIX JONES: I talked to him two-to-three times. I met him when we came to Dallas for our bowl game and he talked to the team. It was just a great feeling, knowing he is an Arkansas native.
On if he was surprised to go before Mendenhall:
FELIX JONES: I really didn’t think about that. Now that you’ve said something about it, I am kind of surprised. He’s a good football player. Jerry Jones has seen something in me and there’s something that I want to show him that he didn’t pick me for the wrong reason.
On kick return duty:
FELIX JONES: We talked about special teams and he didn’t get into great detail about it. It’s something I am looking forward to anyway. Special teams is always something I have loved to do.
On his 1-on-1 interview with Jerry:
FELIX JONES: He told me a little about his background. Now I am able to play for his team and it’s a dream come true.
On where he is:
FELIX JONES: I am in Tulsa at my aunt and uncle’s house. They threw a little watching party for me and they did a great job with it and I am looking forward to spending the rest of the day with them.
On how many people are there:
FELIX JONES: 15 people. They are very excited.
On if he talked to Darren McFadden today:
FELIX JONES: I haven’t talked to Darren today. I know he is busy person; I know how it is. I just want to catch him on a later day and tell him congratulations.
On when he’s headed to dallas:
FELIX JONES: It will probably a couple of days, or maybe tomorrow. I really don’t know. I want to get there as soon as possible though.
On when he worked out here:
FELIX JONES: I was there the last couple of weeks before the draft.
On if he grew up a Cowboys fan:
FELIX JONES: I didn’t get to come down for a game, but some of the players that I watched were Emmitt Smith, Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin - those three guys really made an impression on me when I was younger to go out there and play hard.
On what he brings to the offense:
FELIX JONES: I bring some versatility. It’s a different league and I can bring some excitement to it. I am just ready to go in there and learn my playbook and get on the field.
On talking to Jason Garrett or Wade Phillips:
FELIX JONES: I talked to them when I was on my visit. It was very exciting. It was just something I always dream about.
On what Jerry say when you were picked:
FELIX JONES: He told me we are taking your name right now and he asked me if I was ready and I told him yes, sir. From there on, it’s just been a dream come true.
On if he heard from any other teams:
FELIX JONES: No, (Jerry) Jones was the first person to call me and I was so excited.
On if he knows Mike Jenkins:
FELIX JONES: I am familiar with him now.
On what it will be like wearing a star on his helmet:
FELIX JONES: It will be an honor. I know that for sure. That star represents a lot. That is something I am going to wear and play my best and I am just happy now that I am getting a chance to put it on. This is a dream come true for me.
On how he will complement Marion Barber’s style:
FELIX JONES: He’s more of a power runner and I will compliment him real well. I will put a move on you. That is something I really enjoy doing anyway, and something I am looking forward to doing.
Slide910:
Chandus
They replaced Fasano on those plays for the same reason Roy got replaced on obvious passing plays. He isn’t any good at his job.
Tex:
Math by Tex… Tony Curtis > Tony Fasano
Jim Vance:
Rob Philips of DallasCowboys.com had a couple of quotes in his article titles, “Zeroing In”
When asked who was the toughest running back he ever faced in his college career, Virginia defensive end Chris Long, said, “I personally believe Tashard Choice is the best running back in the league,” and Miami defensive lineman Calais Campbell, a second-round draft choice, said, “The toughest to tackle? I’m going to have to go with my man Tashard Choice. He definitely was the hardest to tackle last year. He ran the ball tough, hard-nosed, fought for every yard. You really had to fight to bring him down. I give him a lot of love.”
I am definitely Pro-Choice.
Tex:
Props to Jerry Jones for cleaning up that old Tuna stench around the Ranch… gone are; Julius Jones, Tony Fasano, Loose Bowels, Jason Ferguson, Nate Jones, Anthony Sparano, Benedict Ireland, Keith Davis, Paula Pasqualoni, Akin Ayodele and Kacy Rogers.
What a disappointing group of underachievers. The only people missing in Miami are Jacob Rogers and Richie Anderson. Tex wouldn’t trade Hudson Houck, let alone Zach Thomas, for anyone on that list.
Tex:
PS: Long & Henne, the two leaders from that “overachieving” Michigan team make perfect sense in Miami. Weren’t Manningham and Mike Hart available?
Gmoney:
Mike Hart ended up on the Colts.
If he proves the scouts wrong and performs the same at the pro’s as he did in College, the Colts will have gotten a steal. . .and will have their own thunder and lightening with Hart and Addai.
. . . like they needed more offense!
Gmoney:
You do have to wonder, with Jake Long, Henne, Hart, Manningham, Arrington and some decent defensive players, what the hell was wrong with Michigan. . .or were all those guys just overrated. . .because they were at Michigan?
Thanks fro the excellent coverage Raf!
is t-camp in oxnard only this year and then back to hell antonio? or is this move more permanent?
rha:
Jodster made an excellent observation on the last thread about the availability of Jenkins in the event we took Mendenhall rather than Jones.
His point was that there is no guarantee the Steelers would have taken a running back if Mendenhall wasn’t available and they could have easily taken Jenkins. I have no idea if Jenkins fit the Steelers plans, but he certainly was the BPA at the time.
I think the combo of Jones/Jenkins is much better than Mendenhall/other than Jenkins.
This Jones/Mendenhall debate is mute anyway. The difference in the two is negligible and the tie break is who fits your need. Jones definitely fits.
After looking extensively at their videos, it’s a coin toss. Who could possibly make a compelling case for or against either player? Tomato/tomato anyone?
Ridgelake:
My one question about Felix is this: Can he pass block effectively?
rha, I’m blushing. I creep 98% of the time. Everyone else seems so much more knowlegeable I usually keep my mouth shut.
Chris Simms has popped up as possibly being available as a backup. Seems the Bucs are LOADED at the QB position. I’m not sold on Brad and hated seeing Moore put on waivers. He had potential.
Does anyone know what possible QB backups will be availabe or at least a good fit with us and when we would probably sign one? I’m thinking around June…..
CaliFanInTx:
Normally I don’t always agree with bleacherreport…but…
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/20307-Cowboys-Superbowl-Potential
THEAIRFORCEBAT2:
GMoney: Nothing was wrong with Michigan’s offense. Notice that all the guys you mentioned were offensive players. Michigan hasn’t had the speed on defense the past couple of years to deal with mobile QB’s.
Its not like Michigan was a bottom of the barrel team, they just had a glaring weakness, Oregon-Dennis Dixon, Ohio State-Troy Smith, App. State-I don’t remember but he was mobile, Texas-Vince Young… besides that the only thing that was wrong with them was that Ohio State beat them every year.
THEAIRFORCEBAT2:
Tex is back… great.
Trey:
Putting Moore on waivers was a mistake. Seems like every year the team keeps some player for some short term reason and cuts player with long term potential. Seems like seldom does the short term player actually get into even one NFL game.
I wish the team would keep the talented prospect at position’s 50-53 and go find an emergency player when the worse case scenario occurs. Band aid players at roster spots 50-53 are not much better then the street free agent options anyway.
Chandus:
Ridgelake:
And that’s a good question.
But picking a blitz isn’t only a mental thing (as in recognizing the blitzer and knowing were he’s supposed to go through) and that’s what gives me hope with this guy.
The guy has real good vision, look at the highlights, look at his head, I can’t tell you to look at his eyes because in most cases you can’t even see them, but they guy’s moving his head, and you can guess that he’s moving his eyes accordingly, to see his blockers and possible tacklers along his way and has the hability to move himself to what his eyes are seeing.
Every player has to push himself to another level when he moves from College to the Pros, but he already has Pro hability, we can only hope that his head is ready or is coached into being.
birdness:
“Jones/Mendenhall debate is mute anyway. The difference in the two is negligible ”
Draft position, 22 vs 23 or predraft prediction top 15 vs late first, early second. I never heard Mike Mayock say Jones was better than Dmac.
My view is mid first vs mid second. Again Barber goes down, who would you like with the ball Mendenhall or Jones?
birdness:
“debate is mute anyway”
That’s true, going forward, I’m all for Jones, I hope he kicks some butt in Silver and Blue!
Squidlo97:
Tex, you think tuna has a smell you should smell the bullshit you dish up.
birdness:
“veryone else seems so much more knowlegeable”
Nobody here is all that good. You have a view post it, everyone will let you know how much righter they are.
Chandus:
BTW.
I keep reading about that 50-50% chances of Terry Glenn being a starter and I can’t stop myself from reading more into such observations…
The other day I was talking with a family friend specialized in orthopedic surgery and I was talking about this player knee condition and I told him if someone in his situation would be able to function properly and the first thing that he told me was:
“The first thing that he has to do is endure the pain.”
I told him that he already endured a lot of pain trying to get himself ready to play after 2 surgeries in a span of 6 months and to that he answered:
“Well, the 2nd thing is dealing with the inflamation and pain after exposing his knee to a series of 100% efforts, it may take 2 or 3 days for his knee to be functional, limiting his practice time.”
And I told him: and if the player’s kept on a training and playing in a week and then resting the next for the whole season? His answer:
“If his knee holds up to the abuse, yes, I can see that happening.”
Then the question is: If you guys can have the Terry Glenn of 2006 for half the games in 2008, would yo do it? My answer comes fast:
Oh, yeah!
UnconventionalWisdom:
The Tuna ignoring Jason Taylor when he drops by his office to say hello. That’s so bush league.
cottonbowl:
Oxnard is beyond most true fans’ means. San Antonio was a dream come true for the heart of the fan base. I’ll contribute for the cause, but nothing beats playing hooky and watching the guys getting ready for a SuperBowl run.
Oklahoma:
Jodster,
Your humility is refreshing and goes a long way toward counterbalancing the ego known as Tex - who not long ago modestly put his name forward as a title candidate for the new stadium. JJ might still go for it if Tex can raise the dough, but the price of adding Drew Henson to the Ring of Honor could prove too steep.
It seems the Redskins are out to re-create their wholly irritating but very effective Fun Bunch of the 1980s. Given that each of the NFC East teams added high value receiving weapons it was excellent planning and maneuvering that led the Cowboys to emerge from the weekend with arguably the NFL’s strongest defensive backfield. This checking of their opponents’ strengths is similiar to what Dallas did by re-signing Flozell Adams to counter the power of the Giants front 7.
I did not favor the Felix Jones pick but look forward to being proved wrong in this respect. Regardless, I give the Cowboys’ draft a high grade, notwithstanding my stubborn belief that they should have moved up in the 2nd for Hardy or Sweed.
birdness:
I didn’t watch the draft on Sunday. Jerry had Manningham and Caldwell available when he moved out of the 3rd for #111 and the Brown’s 09 4th. He later traded #111 for the Lions’ 09 3rd.
At first glance, I don’t like passing on 08 WR prospects. However, I don’t know how Glenn and Stanback are viewed by the staff.
Next year there are several good WR prospects to consider (Crabtee, Heyward, Havin, LaFell …). Those extra mid-round picks will allow Jerry some freedom to move around.
Oklahoma:
Jodster,
Your humility is refreshing and goes a long way toward counterbalancing the ego known as Tex - who not long ago modestly put his name forward as a title candidate for the new stadium. JJ might still go for it if Tex can raise the dough, but the price of adding Drew Henson to the Ring of Honor could prove too steep.
It seems the Redskins are out to re-create their wholly irritating but very effective Fun Bunch of the 1980s. Given that each of the Boy’s NFC East rivals added high value receiving weapons it was excellent planning that led Dallas to emerge from the weekend with arguably the NFL’s strongest defensive backfield. Manuevering to land Jenkins was equally aggressive and impressive. This strategic checking of their opponents’ strengths is similiar to what Dallas did by re-signing Flozell Adams to counter the power of the Giants front 7.
I favored Mendenhall over Jones but look forward to being proved entirely wrong in that respect. Regardless, I give the Cowboys’ draft a high grade, notwithstanding my belief that they should have moved up in the 2nd for Hardy or Sweed. IMO outside of TO this group of receivers represents the team’s lone significant achilles heal heading into next year. TO needs his “Alvin Harper” to give Dallas the decided edge over strong competition.
Gray:
A look at the 2009 Draft:
http://nfldraft.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=802821
Joe:
Gray,
Both rivals and espn have the Cowboys picking 31st. I guess we’re projected to be the loser of the SB to the Pats.
Joe:
Oops,
My bad. Rivals has the Colts winning and espn has the Pats winning.
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