339 Comments to ‘Round Two Live Blogging’: »

jake:

1st!!!

vegascowboy:

2nd!!!

stoproyce:

d’oh is right!

UnconventionalWisdom:

I guess I can’t complain about not taking a Wr with our first when nobody else did either. But I have high hopes for the second round–Doucett, Sweed, Hardy anyone?

cormanman:

Wow, WRs are not falling as planned.

Good that we waited.

vegascowboy:

Gotta say that I think Jones is the perfect fit in our system if we get the barbarian signed. Come on guys we’ve got our home run hitter at RB and our Packman insurance policy! What more do you want?!?

stoproyce:

none of them make it to 61.

cormanman:

The biggest D’oh for me is Houston’s pick of D. Brown (OT).

Reeeeeaaaach.

You’d have thought that was a pick by the Bills.

staubachfan:

Raf,

What do you think about the new pace of the draft?

CaptainComeback:

The order the WR’s are being taken in is crazy.
This is exactly why I said don’t take a WR until the 3rd or 4th. There are no clear cut top 3.

Bring me Tyrell Johnson

jake:

i would really like jj to trade up and take de sean jackson. You have to be a great player to even make it to a premier college as a 5-9 receiver. He has overcome that obsticle all his life, and is now a 2nd round receiver. I like him a lot more than bigger wr’s because he’s had to work harder and prove a lot more to get here. Plus we need a deep threat

SDCOWBOYFAN:

Me I like Hardy.

vegascowboy:

I say now take BPA between WR and safety

CaptainComeback:

If Jerry really loves somebody he should jump up and take them. I’m all for it. Screw quanity of picks, I want people JJ believes can play. I would love a speedy slot WR like Royal or Desan.

jake:

Or might we go with another CB, like justin king? Before pacman, all of us were talking about 2 CB’s, and if henry is moving to saftey, makes a good case for drafting without pacman in mind

vegascowboy:

Completely agree CaptainComeback…late picks are going to have a REAL hard time making this team!

vegascowboy:

Jake,
Maybe a safety with good coverage skills…are there any left? I admit I havent really followed them since I was hoping for a good WR and RB

torchinDefense:

Told ya’ll there would be a run in the 2nd.. no question

CaptainComeback:

I think I’m more excited about this next pick than our first 2 rounds. Kind of new who we would take. This next one is a mystery.

Ridgelake:

We go either TE or WR at 61, assuming we don’t move up.

onepaniolo:

JJ is on Cowboys cam NFL Network

vegascowboy:

Ridgelake,

Why not wait till 4th or 5th and pick up a decent FB…why TE? Serious question B/C I’m ignorant with draft stuff.

jake:

well tyrell johnson is left at safety, and one other guy. NOt very deep at safety this year

CaptainComeback:

Vegas,
Morgan or DeCoud coverage skills.

jake:

Why te, we traded fasano to miami yesterday

SDCOWBOYFAN:

nap time, hopefully I wake up before our 2nd rounder.

CaptainComeback:

I love Tyrell Johnson but his coverage skills aren’t great from what I’ve seen.

vegascowboy:

Comeback,

I’d be happy with a little more versatility in the secondary. Either of them or a WR would make me happy

vegascowboy:

But we still have Curtis and witten…doesn’t seem like a second round need to me

jake:

thats true… te is prolly a reach in rd. two. curtis isn’t known for his blocking though, so i would assume that will come in later rounds

CaptainComeback:

Safety or WR is the call.

torchinDefense:

Captain,

Is he (Tyrell J) Roy Williams JR?

aka no coverage skills?

vegascowboy:

Jake,

Do you know how many TEs a team normally keeps. I figured with Garrets offence Two TEs and two FBs would be enough. Am I wrong?

torchinDefense:

61st sucks.. wish we were higher

jerryw:

i still would like to see us get another 2nd…

torchinDefense:

3 TE’s IMO. One passing, One run/block and one flex.

AFCowboy:

Fellas,

I have loved the debate all day long, but now my two cents is merited.

We need Defensive Lineman. Wade is squirming in his seat thinking how he is going to create pressure with the likes of Spears et al.

We are sweet in the defensive backfield. I’m greedy too, so I want more. But, if there is someone who can bring it Justin Tuck style, that is our guy.

jake:

3 tight ends, cowboys have had 4 a couple of the past 5 years

torchinDefense:

yeah trade our 6th and other 7th for another 2nd.
There goes Hardy.

jake:

tight end has replaced the FB position in the cowboys offense

staubachfan:

With the trade that me made to move up to 25, what are our late round picks?

CaptainComeback:

Torch, Great at Run Support, Great Speed unlike Roy but so so coverage skills. Teams are in love with him.

Torch I think 61st sucks as well. I don’t want to wait. I wish jerry would trade our 4th and move up in this round and get who they want. We are not the Dolphins we don’t need 9 players to get better. Just a few.

jake:

WOW! eddie royal just got taken by the broncos…. he was thought to be a much later pick

CaptainComeback:

F!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted Eddie Royal. F’n Broncos!

scout:

What a great first round.

I told you Dallas would take Felix Jones, and they took him over Mendenahll. I put some of concerns some scouts had about Mendenhall on the blog yesterday. Felix Jones will prove all his doubters wrong. I’ve seen him play many times. What a steal at number 22.

I told you the Titans wanted Felix Jones, and I told you to look for Chris Johnson (to Tennessee) after Dallas took Felix Jones.

That is exactly what happened.

scout:

Dallas flat out stole Mike Jenkins. To get a 4.38 CB at pick 25 is a steal. He could play safety and corner.

vegascowboy:

Jake,
HAS is the key word…Jason Garrett wants a good FB so I’m thinking we keep two FBs possibly 3 TEs this year…thanks for the insight.

Damn this is so much fun!

scout:

If Mario Manningham is there at 61, Dallas should gamble.

Zapruder:

What quality receivers are left for 61? Sweed won’t be there.

jake:

tyrell johnson just got taken by the vikes. Man they got a good defense. So much for safety in this draft. as far as i know…

Tighthead:

Raf,

Berman sounds like he is going to choke on his own fat turkey neck. One day he will.

Ridgelake:

Damn, Tyrell Johnson just went off the board.

scout:

I read wher Tyrell Johnson has a partial tear in his ACL.

CaptainComeback:

Double FFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tyrell Johnson is gone.

cormanman:

Damn the Broncos.

Still, if Sweed is there at 61 then that’s awesome.

I really liked Royal though.

vegascowboy:

Hey scout,

I missed it yesterday…what were the concerns with mendenhall? I really like Jones over him because of speed.

cormanman:

The bottom half of the first and top half of the second is always the sweet spot in the draft.

CaptainComeback:

I want a WR now.

Lobsterman:

I’m surprised by some of the earlier posts regarding round#1. If you knew YESTERDAY that Dallas would get both Felix Jones and Mike Jenkins - You wouldn’t be happy??? Given a choice, I would’ve signed off on that immediately.

CaptainComeback:

Somebody on this board loved Forte I don’t remember who?

jake:

only 17 more picks till we go, there is still sweed, de sean jackson, and manningham. could one of them fall to us? do we go get one?

Ridgelake:

Scout, you just lost all credibility with that Manningham quip. You have to be joking.

Oh wait, Desean Jackson is still around. Which one should we take Scout?

CaptainComeback:

Lobster, I think everybody is cool with it, just the fact the Mendenhall was on the board and we took Jones instead. I’m fine with Both. Great draft so far.

jarhead:

Lobsterman,
I think many are pissed about the order and the fact we gave up 5th and 7th rounders to get back up to get jenkins; however, i think rafael makes a sound point in a couple of threads back.

Im already curious to see what red has up his sleeve with jones.

jarhead:

breer is all up in arms that we didnt take mendenhall.

that actually makes me feel better.

Lobsterman:

jake,

I’d love to go get Sweed if possible…

UnconventionalWisdom:

malcolm Kelly intrigues me. dropped b/c of bad 40 time, bu does he play faster? I’d prefer Sweed, but we’ll have to move up to get him i thnk.

jake:

I think with seattle, they had several teams looking to trade up, and a 5th from dallas wasn’t quite enough. So jerry throws in a 7th to put it over the top. Its questionable, but we got the guy we wanted

scout:

Ridgelake,

Mario Manningham may be the best WR in the draft. He is a first round talent. He has slid due to character and intelligence concerns.

DeSean Jackson was being projected in the firt round by many experts.

So, why don’t you get off your high horse.

I called the Felix Jones pick and was called out.

So, get in line.

CaptainComeback:

I guys the Eagles are scared to pick. Guaranteed they take a WR with one of their next 2 picks.

jerryw:

we have 1. second 1. third 1. fourth and a 6th left…what should we do?

CaptainComeback:

I don’t want Manningham

Zapruder:

Desean Jackson or Sweed would be amazing on top of our two first rounders. With these rookies and pacman reinstated the cowboys could be as dominant as the pats were last season.

jake:

well, don’t forget we have some extra picks from the trade with miami, so we still have an extra 3rd, and 1 5th left. I don’t think we have a 4th, we lost that to pacman tennessee trade

vegascowboy:

No way sweed falls to us…we need to move up if we want him! I’d call that a sucessful draft. Anything else would be a bonus to me

CaptainComeback:

Where’s Tex today?

jake:

whoops we got a 4 and 6 from miami… my fault

CaptainComeback:

Nice job Bengals. What?

jake:

jerome simpson, wr out of coastal carolina was taken above these other premier wr’s still available??? doesn’t make sense to me

vegascowboy:

We got a 4 and 6 from Miami…I thought it was just the 1st 4th rounder?

jake:

he’s definately gonna replace chad johnson!

scout:

VegasCowboy,

Some scouts believe Mendenhall doesn’t have enough lateral movement. They feel he may not be able to avoid hits and change direction fast. He dodged some agility drills, from whay I’ve read, at the combine. A scout said he isn’t sure about Mendenahall’s mental toughness. He was talking about Mendenhall taking a lot of punishment, and he didn’t know if he had the mental toughness to take it.

I’m glad Jerry Jones sees the need for some finesse in this offense. Felix Jones can run between the tackles.

You can either go through the wall, or you can avoid the wall and explode.

Felix Jones will aviod the wall and explode.

maplesyrup:

I just can’t believe Brohm and Sweed are still on the board!

vegascowboy:

Thanks Scout…we don’t need a P***y at WR. If thats true I don’t want him either. Simpson is off the board. Come on JJ…lets get sweed!

mowgli:

I can’t believe Desean Jackson hasn’t been drafted yet. Hey, did you guys know he is the most electrifying player in this draft?

Ridgelake:

Scout, I actually would be fine taking Jackson now.

Manningham is an absolute bonehead. No way in hell would I draft him in the 2nd. Maybe in the 4th. But you said it yourself, “He has slid due to character and intelligence concerns.” Those are pretty big issues.

vegascowboy:

This pace is awesome! I’d rater be struggling to keep up than struggling to stay awake!

maplesyrup:

May have to trade up w/Pittsburgh to get Sweed… If he falls that far.

jake:

sweed will go to philly i think

Lobsterman:

WR Jerome Simpson from Coastal Carolina ???

This is getting crazy…need to move to get Sweed.

mowgli:

Man, the Cowboys are still so far away

jake:

nope, jackson to eagles

CowboyMan:

I like the pace of this draft. Goodell did a good thing.

Ridgelake:

Well, there goes Jackson to Philly

jake:

dan conner of penn state is still on the board! that is unreal

CowboyMan:

take out 2nd and 3rd and go get Sweed

texasmonster:

sweed wont make it past titans
so they better trade with pitt

Chandus:

Sweed and Kelly are falling, wrist and knee are bright red flags.

CaptainComeback:

I want Limas or Early

Squidlo97:

Has anyone notice how the smaller quicker WRs are coming off the board faster. Is it because the recent failures of Charles Mike Williams and other big guys who cant seperate. I find it interesting.

Scout I like Manningham as well.

Captain Comeback, I was the one high on Forte. I wanted him with our 2nd but he is long gone. Watcch this guy, I think he will be a beast. He ran for Tulane and everyone knew he was all they had and he still ran for over 2000 yards.

Ridgelake:

Raf’s favorite TE Bennett is still available too.

As is Dan Conner. Not that I’m advocating an ILB.

Chandus:

Well, we’re going to see a lot of DeSean Jackson, we’ll have the CBs, we’ll need better ST play…

Lobsterman:

SWEED still available at #51. Wow.

Squidlo97:

I want a WR to groom under Glenn. A guy here to teach him to be a pro.

Ridgelake:

Quentin Groves is available too

Chandus:

Lobsterman:
Yeah, but we don’t know if teams medical staffs aren’t confident on his wrist. It seems that it’s indeed a big deal, he may suffer of chronic wrist problems, that’s a huge problem for a WR.

jarhead:

skins are loading up on WRs.

jerryw:

m. kelly to the foreskins

CaptainComeback:

Redskins another WR?

Maybe we should taken another CB? Division is getting tougher.

CaptainComeback:

JJ, Listen to me trade up right now and take Limas.

Squidlo97:

Crap, I dont like both of them going there. One is going to hit big.

jake:

limas isn’t a burner though, he doesn’t have great speed, and can dissapear against tough competition. I don’t think he is who we need at wr

Chandus:

Well, we’re going to see as lot of DeSean Jackson, Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas… Having 4 decent prospects at CB’s becoming more valuable by teh minute…

kameleon_o:

Kelly just went to the DEadskins. That’s two top WR’s to our division rivals and Philly got Desean Jackson. Looks like they’re planning to air it out against our 4 great CB’s!!

rf@tj:

Wash has taken 2 WR and a TE in the 2nd, all 3 are taller than 6′2″.
Do we need another CB, someone like thomas from USC or Ikegwuonu from wisconsin?

jerryw:

jax trades to the 52nd pick

CaptainComeback:

Squid, Malcolm Kelly sucks. I’m worried about Thomas though. MAybe we need more secondary help.

jerryw:

groves gone…

jake:

good thing wr’s don’t usually produce until 3rd or 4th years. Lets hope this is the case. there goes groves… but he looks like he woulda been a linebacker in our systme, so we didn’t need him

Ridgelake:

No, Groves is not available any more. Jax takes him.

Cuervo5012:

would pitt trade with us here?

rf@tj:

of course not in the 2nd but maybe in the 3rd

jake:

i bet you a dollar, when sweed goes, they’ll show his highlight catching a td from vince young against ohio state. thats his main highlight from college really

jarhead:

sweed is off.

move on.

Lobsterman:

SWEED GONE to Steelers…

jerryw:

sweed gone..

Cuervo5012:

oh well

jake:

maybe sweeed will be as good for the steelers as plaxico was fcr them

Ridgelake:

TE Bennett, Early Doucett. Or Earl Bennett are my hopes for 61

vegascowboy:

Damn!!! Who now?

jake:

manningham, doucet… but i think the cowboys may surprise us and take someone no one has thought of

Sean N:

what about andre caldwell at 61?

Sean N:

no manningham…remember mike williams

Cuervo5012:

i almost feel bad for the titans, they keep having guys stolen right before they pick

CaptainComeback:

I have no idea what to do now?

Jerry you better hurry up if are going to give us some “Wow” this offseason

maplesyrup:

I’m thinking Caldwell or Manningham…

CaptainComeback:

Do we go Doucett or Caldwell or
King or Godfrey?

Ridgelake:

TE Bennett
WR Doucet, Caldwell, or Bennett

CaptainComeback:

Maybe Tex gets his QB here

kameleon_o:

I just got home from work an hour ago. Man was I surprised!! I was talking to my dad on my cell and walked in to the list of picks scrolling across the screen. I remember seeing Felix Jones name come up at #22 and said to myself “Oh, we knew that was coming”, and then I saw that Mendenhall, a guy I thought we had NO shot at, was taken right after our pick and I yelled “OH NOOOOOOOOOO!!!”. Couldn’t believe it. THEN I saw that we drafted Jenkins with #25 and I flipped out again and yelled “OH YEAH!!!!”.

Just wild man. I don’t have a problem anymore with us drafting Felix Jones, came to terms with that a long time ago, but I do think that I would have gone with Mendenhall. To me it’s not that we should have picked Jenkins at #22 and then Felix at #28 because as Raf said he wouldn’t have been available. It’s that I would have taken Mendenhall, who’s a better back IMO, with #22 and then done what they did for Jenkins.

All in all though there’s NO DOUBT in my mind that we are a better overall team, maybe much better than we were before this draft started.

BTW, I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT DEVIN THOMAS FELL ALL THE WAY TO #34!!! Man, Avery was the 1st WR taken?? Are you freaking kidding me???

Garza:

Would be surprised if the pick is made. Maybe a trade out? Dan Connor? Wow that would really through a wrench into things.

UnconventionalWisdom:

Guess I can argue about taking a WR early next year. Doucett and earl Bennett are still possible. Maybe FA vet later this year. get ready to pay out the nose for next year.

CaptainComeback:

GB drafted a QB…poor Aron Rodgers

kameleon_o:

I say we go Caldwell. He’s got size and speed. Would make a great addition to the team. Need speed at WR!!!

Ridgelake:

Does Miami take Henne here?

jake:

lets not forget… roy williams (det) is a free agent next year, and wants to come to dallas. This is TO’s last year. We are likely to replace him with Roy.

Ridgelake:

Could be Connor as well.

kameleon_o:

Two young QB’s on the Packers now. That’s not a great pick but I’m all for it. Every team that throws a pick away like that means a better player falls to us.

jarhead:

dan conner wouldnt shock me, nor would that TE rafael threw out recently.

maplesyrup:

Hmmm… Maybe another Arkansas boy in DT Harrison?

jarhead:

tuna got a young QB.

Cuervo5012:

im not going to lie, i love the tackling machine from linbacker U but we really could use a young wr.

kameleon_o:

Didn’t Miami take John Beck in the 2nd round last year?? Guess that was a wasted pick.

jarhead:

forget everything miami did last year, there is a new sherrif in town.

Sean N:

I’d pick F Jones over Mendenhall…Mendenhall was a one year wonder at college, F Jones was productive for 3 years. He avged 8+ YPC last year and has the 2nd highest YPC (7.6 YPC) for his career of anybody in NCAA history with 350+ carries. Also he is a hell of a kick returner - returned kicks for 3 years avged 30+ per kick return one year, 28+ last year. big plus for the offense and the kick return game IMO

kameleon_o:

Maple,

I’m with you. Harrison would be a great pickup. We could really use him.

Please!!!! NO TE’s!!!!! Please!!!!!!

UnconventionalWisdom:

Don’t be late be EARLY!

CowboyMan:

Someone Jerry likes must be falling. I guess he doesn’t feel he has to make a move to get ‘whoever’ it is.

smackpat:

I don’t know if anybody saw this but Henne told millions of people his phone number and social security number right before he got selected.. Anybody else see this?

CowboyMan:

Sean N: Dittos

UnconventionalWisdom:

No TE now please. Wait until tomorrow.

Sean N:

imagine Marion the Barbarian and the explosiveness of Felix… they can bothe play on the field at the same time sometimes

kameleon_o:

Sean N.,

That’s all true, but I think Mendenhall actually has a chance to start in this league. I don’t know that Felix does. Felix Jones isn’t a bad pick at #22, just seems that way when a guy like Mendenhall was available.

Ridgelake:

Now watch TB go Doucet….

Miamicowboy:

How does this make sense?:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3368421

I thought Fasano was a good TE to be trading for a 4th? Akin would have been a cap move anyway.

beaner:

I say we have a bigger need at DT and we go with Red Bryant from Texas A&M. He has great size at 6-4 318 and strength. Which is what we need at the position.

CowboyMan:

smackpat: I just cleaned out his bank account and made myself a co-signer on the account. When he gets his signing bonus I’ll get that too.

Geeze, don’t they teach these college kids anything.

Ridgelake:

Well, I got the position right. Can’t say I know enough about Dexter Jackson to say whether this is good or not.

SDCOWBOYFAN:

Back from my nap. I see Buff. picked Hardy. Bummer.

Sean N:

Mendenhall is a 3 down back thats similar in style to MB3. Jones is a better fit. Plus the KR possiblities.

Mendenhall may turn out to have a better career, but I think Felix is a better fit for us and we didnt reach to get him - hes a legit #22.

maplesyrup:

beaner, isn’t Harrison at DT a better pick than Bryant? That said, I like Bryant…

jake:

will jay ratliff move to DE, if we get a nose tackle? We just gave him a big contract

donnyposner:

What makes this a not a good draft?

Dallas’s Number 1 need was a WR.

Now, I’m not saying they should have taken one in the first round, but they could not work out a trade for Roy Williams, Anquan Boldin, or Chad Johnson.

They took a RB where he had little value. He’s an ok RB but you could have taken a complimentary RB later.

The CB is fine allowing Henry to move to FS.

What happens if TO goes down? Seriously.

2nd Round…I look at Martellus Bennett TE

I don’t think they got great value for Fasano & Ayodele, making them need a TE which they could have spent on something else.

rf@tj:

for DT I have Sims, Rubin or Morton (the last two will be available in the 6th i guess)

kameleon_o:

Sean N.,

Again, I agree. Felix is a legit #22. I just don’t like drafting “complementary” backs in the 1st round. I want a guy who can start if necessary. I do think Mendenhall will have a better career but who knows??

maplesyrup:

How ’bout trading our 61 to Miami, giving them the Michigen Henne/Manningham combo?

donnyposner:

Marcus Harrison
Red Bryant
Ayhtba Rubin

also makes sense but you may be able to get one of them at the end of the third.

UnconventionalWisdom:

Doucett please!

Tighthead:

Is there any actual chance of Henry moving to FS? Not meaning to be a smartass to DP - serious question.

donnyposner:

Mannigham & Doucet have to be a possibility as well

CHARB:

If, Barber is a productive, tackle breaking, pro bowl RB and Mendenhall is a similar player.

Then, I want Mendenhall.

donnyposner:

Yes. We’ll see in training camp but my bet is he’ll spend some time at FS with Pacman and Jenkins in the fold.

Tighthead:

Charb - I agree. harder to find than the complimentary back

SDCOWBOYFAN:

Dallas on the clock

jerryw:

well here we go!

Sean N:

were on the clock

Ridgelake:

I’m going to guess Doucet as well. But Raf’s guy Bennett can’t be forgotten.

kameleon_o:

Dexter Jackson is a really intriguing player. Extremely fast and explosive. Awesome as a KR/PR.

Dallas on the clock. Come on Caldwell or Doucet!!!

ManTab:

pick a freaking WR. NO dont need another TE. The reason why they shipped Fasano was because Tony Curtis ws catching everything thrown his way….oh, and because Witten is not that bad….

Cuervo5012:

whats going on in the war room right now?

Tighthead:

Has anyone from the team talked about Henry moving to FS?

CowboyMan:

Any guesses?

beaner:

Maplesyrup: I’d be happy with either one. Bryant has more potential as big tough run stuffer who eats up blockers. Much like Jamal Williams does for SD.

kameleon_o:

NO TE pleassssssssssseeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

Tighthead:

The ILB from PSU - Bennett?

donnyposner:

Chris Johnson is a better receiver, faster, and same size as Felix Jones.

larry:

We’ve already drafted one and maybe 2 guys who can return kicks.
That shouldn’t be a concern.

Sam:

My guess for this upcoming pick is either going to be a guard or NT, so I’m going to say:

G–Mike McGlynn